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Felicia Sullivan EIC interviews Victoria Rowan
Felicia Sullivan: How has being a mentor and instructor through Media Bistro enhanced
your own projects or made an impact on your writing/personal persuits?
All those warming-the-heart-cockles assertions that teachers always say
about how it's an honor and a daily inspiration to do their work? Corny, but
true.
Bossing anybody around with a red pen took some getting used to. Having
heard "those who can't do, teach" too many times, I was superstitious that
teaching would jinx my writing career. Now that I'm 32, I still sometimes
squirm in my glass house, but then I think of the out-of-shape diving coach.
I saw him when I was watching the summer Olympics a while back and was
transfixed by this diver, a wee nimble water nymph, achieving all these
medal-winning feats. Her coach clearly was a brilliant trainer, even though
he was so overweight, doing a somersault on land would have been a death
wish for him. So, while I keep limber by writing as much as I can, I now
have no problem telling my students that if they ever read a piece of mine
that they think falls shy of my advocated principles, to do as I say, not as
I do. At this point, I know I can coach the best out of others--even if
their writing is more inventive than mine.
One of the biggest bonuses of being a writing teacher has been the immediate
gratification of helping a student. Knowing that my students are whip-smart,
tough New Yorkers keeps me sharp--and makes me cherish any praise I get from
them even more. Writing freelance is a rush, but it's lonely. Even when
you've landed a big coup, it's ego-disheartening that so few people notice,
much less tell you. So, I find that the human interaction and continuing
relationships of the classroom are the perfect compliments to one-sided
reporting interviews and the solitude of writing. And being happier on the
job has made me a happier and more productive person in all areas of my
life.
Once I interviewed a student who had founded a peer tutoring program at his
medical school who said, "you don't REALLY learn something until you have to
teach it to someone else." For myself, I feel I finally have taken to heart
all those writing principles that I THOUGHT I was applying, but realize I
wasn't until I had wrestled with them in order to explain them to others. My
own biggest breakthroughs have been in self-editing--particularly in terms
of structure and delivering the "so what" factor.
Teaching has also helped me clean up my ideas so that they actually make it
onto the printed page as I intended. The common freelancer gripe is that
editors constantly "dumb down" their articles. I can now see how writers are
sloppy in their submissions, thereby making themselves vulnerable to the
last-minute oversimplified rewrites. To improve the chances that their voice
and copy will be left in tact, I urge my journalism students to "write
defensively," as in the advice we all get in driver's ed to "drive
defensively." By that I mean if you know the laws and observe them, you keep
yourself out of harm's way. In the journalism arena, that means actually
putting in the time to study the "laws" of the publication and section
you're writing for and to self-edit rigorously for that venue so that the
editor "cops" won't "write you up" and make trouble for you.
Ambitious writers are naturally anti-authoritarian and hate to follow
instructions, but until they find the humility to deliver what is expected
of them and express themselves with clear, structured logic, they will be
frustrated. Even avant-garde fiction writers must make their work adhere to
a logic; it can be one of their own devising, but it must be consistent and
comprehensible to others. For the first time last year I enjoyed the
satisfaction of having a national glossy run a long feature I'd written
exactly as I submitted it. That wouldn't have happened before I had led
workshops.
My students are always asking what I'm working on. In a good way, that keeps
the pressure on to produce rather than suffer the embarrassment of having
nothing to say.
Felicia Sullivan: Please share some details on your monthly variety show, Beyond
Words: Stories on Stage. What can attendees expect? How did the idea
evolve? Where do you plan to take this in the future?
I founded "Beyond Words: Stories on Stage" 9 years ago, calling it "Nights
with VCR"--as a riff on my initials. Soon I'll have to start lying about
when I founded it because it makes me sound too old! The show is dedicated
to solo story-telling in all its forms--from dramatic monologue to memoir to
short story to humor to songwriting. Sometimes I like to throw in some
unexpected curve-balls--like an amazing harmonica player I picked up on the
subway or an extraordinary mime. I'm most pleased about the time Mo Willems,
an Emmy-award winning writer for Sesame Street and prolific animator, rode
his motorcycle off the stage. I like showcasing solo performers because it's
the ultimate creative challenge: to be riveting relying on innate charisma
and imagination alone without the crutch of lighting, sound effects or
costuming. Plus, working with with "minimalist" spoken word and
singer/songwriter acts makes the production end a helluva lot easier.
The idea behind the show is to allow people to congregate and enjoy being
entertained by the unpredictable. Initially, I founded it because I was
living in a place where I couldn't throw big parties, which I adore, so this
was a way to rally all my favorite creative friends and make some magic. By
now it's evolved into a professional entity and while I remain committed to
finding new writers and I often solicit material from "names" with whom I
have no personal connection. But the spirit remains the same: intimate
setting and high-quality material. While I always want it to be funny and to
be smart, I don't want this to be a comedy hour nor do I want it to be a
black-turtleneck scene. I always have a range of genres and moods, which
makes the show distinct from other downtown variety shows.
My big ambitions are to have an anthology released next year to coincide
with my 10th anniversary season and to get this show a regular slot on the
radio.
Felicia Sullivan: What are some of your projects for the upcoming year? Personal and
professional?
My whole personal and professional life have essentially comingled into one
state of being, but since I'm lucky enough to love everything I'm doing,
it's not as grim as that sounds. Admittedly, it can be stressful when I'm
rushing through a great book because of a deadline. Or when I'm too tired
after being "on" for a class to greet my speculative pet projects with
smaller price tag potential with as much energy as they need.
A big personal goal that would also help me professionally would be to learn
more patience and eschew multitasking. To have more faith that doing one
thing at a time really well is the saner and ultimately more efficient
approach. To be more in the moment and get the most out of everything I do.
Professionally, I would like to sell one of my book ideas. One would be a
journalism how-to book, one would be a themed series of profiles. There's
also the Beyond Words anthology I mentioned already. I am also contributing
pen-and-ink drawings to a cookbook and would like to contribute
illustrations to all my future books.
Felicia Sullivan: Who are some of your professional influences and what are key ideas
that you desire to evoke upon students that are influenced by you?
I've been raised by books. My favorite authors have become this unwieldy
extended family that has taken over my apartment, demanding that I install
many bookshelves to accommodate them.
Over the years, I've had also had amazing English/Writing teachers at
Brearley, my elementary school and high school, the University of Virginia
and at The Writer's Studio in NYC. I name names only to give these wonderful
institutions the credit they're due. Classics such as Julia Cameron's "The
Artist's Way," Betty Edwards, "Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain;"
Hannah Hinchman's "A Life in Hand: Creating the Illuminated Journal" remain
the inspirational wellsprings I reread when I feel burnt out. My taste has
always been eclectic and I enjoy everything from children's books to
cookbooks to Latin American magic realist fiction to memoir to artist
monographs.
Before my recent move, I had to cull my books. Since in high school and
college I worked in libraries and bookstores, I'm laughably precise about
how I order my library, but I decided to mess up my rigid category system
for a "favorites" shelf. I surprised myself with the realization that I'm
less traditionally "intellectual" than I had thought. I even caught myself
dishonestly putting some "tough" classics there, just because my inner
English-major-snob was pushing me to. But the truth is, that if I could only
save 20 books in a fire, I wouldn't be panicking about making sure I got my
Herman Melville or architectural critical theory. I'd far rather take Eloise
than James Joyce. I'm a passionate words woman, but there are some visual
books are in my top 20, too, because communicating visually and verbally has
always interested me enormously.
I'm drawn to distinctive voices whom I consider smart, wise and accessible.
Profound without pretension. I like authors who break molds and are
surprising in ways that I find instructional and with whom I have a personal
connection to. Many of them are living authors I have met, interviewed or
known personally which makes their work especially resonant for me. Some
samplings from my personal pantheon of heros include:
In the non-fiction essay category: Anne Lamotte, especially "Traveling
Mercies;" for her easy acknowledgement of spiritual crises that occur in
every day life with such humorous humanity. Anne Fadiman's "Ex Libris" is so
delightful a collection of essays about her intimate relationships with
books that are erudite while being written with a wink.
Memoir: Frank McCourt's "Angela's Ashes" was a remarkable achievement of
emotional distance from his material succeeding in making the reader
emotionally involved. Anatole Broyard's brilliantly imperfect and unfinished
"Kafka was the Rage" which has some of the most remarkably compelling
metaphors I've ever read. Amy Fusselman, "The Pharmacist's Mate" which is a
prose-poetic interweaving of her diary with that of her father's at the same
age.
Fiction: Lucia Nevai's "Normal" is a collection of breathtakingly funny and
poignant short stories. Jonathan Franzen's "Corrections" taught me how to be
a better reporter because he clearly did so much research on all the
different worlds he was portraying from celebrity chefdom to senior citizen
cruises and used that information to illuminate his characters. Doug
Coupland's "Life After God" I find his most whimsical and inquisitive book,
plus he illustrated each short story with his own drawings.
Visual books: Elisha Cooper's sketch book of a "A Year in New York" showed
me how to look at my home town with fresh eyes. Milton Glaser's "Art is
Work" monograph dazzled with his confident creations in so many mediums from
ad campaigns to colored pencil techniques to theme park design. Mark
Hampton's "The Art of Friendship," a collection of his watercolor cards he
created for friends and family represented so much whimsical generosity,
they choke you up. Mollie Katzen's "The Moosewood Cookbook" because of her
whimsical illustrations and for showing how vegetarian cooking can be
inventive, not beige. Kay Thompson & illustrator Hilary Knight "Eloise" for
creating a devilishly delicious persona and the illustrations to match.
Istvan Banyai's "Zoom," an incredible wordless children's book that with
each turn of the page zooms into a magnification of part of the image on the
previous spread.
Felicia Sullivan: What are the key ideas that you wish to impart to your students?
I, like most writers, write largely to get attention. Fine. However, a good
writer has to have the attitude that they need to EARN that attention rather
than that they are ENTITLED to that attention. Ok, it's a cheap trick, but
I'll resort a SEX analogy here. Good writing is learning how to seduce,
court and bed the reader rather than indulging in literary masturbation.
Masturbation on the page can be very constructive for one's development as a
writer, but should be considered a practice that remains in your journal
under your pillow back in your bedroom, not for public viewing--just like
the real act. Go ahead, call me old-fashioned, Iım not going to budge on
that. Inappropriate disclosure or lack of energy in writing is as
unappealing as a self-absorbed, lazy lover: it's not generous, it's not
illuminating, and therefore not worth the reader's time.
Good reporting and vivid descriptions are essential skills, but can be
reactive and shallow if not put in the service of making a compelling story,
that touches on bigger themes. Good writing is as creatively demanding and
rewarding as a spectacular love affair. Actually focusing on your subject
with enough scrutiny to discover something new, and being snazzy in your
delivery, THAT's the higher level I want my students and myself to always
aspire to. In the same way, the best lovers are adept at coming up with the
most wonderful gifts that are specific to them and specifically touching to
you. Shakespeare's plays are unique and yet individuals the world over have
felt personally moved by them because they are so original and well-crafted.
Risking beating this metaphor to death, I also believe that the workshop
setting itself is important to the developing writer for the same reason why
a person who prefers to masturbate can never be a great lover. The workshop
setting forces the writer to get out of the security of their cozy beds, to
be brave and get to know--and risk rejection by--the audience they're trying
to seduce with their prose.
Other key ideas:
Thoughtfulness: Positive attention in writing has the power to transform the
most seemingly insignificant idea into something meaningful.
Critiquing: Constructive praise and constructive criticism should be given
as if you are helping the writer achieve what s/he wants to achieve in the
piece, not what YOU want for the piece.
Importance of observation: Intense scrutiny actually brings revelation and
mystery into the every day. That existence is perpetually inspiring if lived
intensely. That we are all snorkeling through daily routines that are as
fascinating as the most technicolored coral reefs, if we only choose to SEE
energetically.
Synthesis: One's personal philosophies should be expressed through one's
work.
Economy of effort: Being mentally flexible enough to see how projects can
cross-pollinate and inform another.
To live life urgently: Have a joyful awareness of your mortality and use it
to prioritize accordingly. Don't waste your time on things you don't care
about, you never know how long you have on planet earth to realize your
dreams.
Felicia Sullivan: The line between journalism and creative non fiction constantly
dovetails into one another. Do you feel that they are two separate
genres of writing and should be treated as such or do you feel that
journalistic pieces can certainly use a creative touch?
All good writing must shimmer with creativity, so yes, that means journalism
too. The best journalists, even beat reporters doing "just-the-facts"
stories, are creative about tracking down a story via unconventional
methods, conducting insightful interviews, solving mysteries great and
small. So, even if their required form is the traditional inverted pyramid,
that doesn't mean that the content can't be explosive.
Here I can't resist another rant. Too many people have hang-ups about the
word "creativity." In my book, creativity doesn't mean fancy curlicues and
neon arrows. Simple expression that reveals a great truth can be sufficient
to enthrall. Nike's "Just Do It" campaign still packs a punch is because it
invites multiple interpretations and taps into a universal human truth about
procrastination: we all tend to postpone our joy--and isn't that dumb!?!
As for journalism pieces, I still love rereading Tom Wolfe's non-fiction
works from the early '60s, though they are firmly grounded in specific times
and places. These books are so much fun, the writing sounds fresh today.
Plus Wolfe has a real flair for picking quirky subjects that explore aspects
of the human condition that never change, no matter what the brand labels
are.
That all being said, I think that journalism and creative non-fiction are
different genres and should be respected as such. Though I think that
objectivity is a pose, I still don't want tons of opinion clouding my view
in above-the-fold, front-page New York Times stories.
Felicia Sullivan: How has Media Bistro and your involvement with the site and its
projects aided in your career.
Mediabistro.com has given me many opportunities to meet more fascinating
people. As an advertising/marketing tool, it's unparalleled for the
publishing industry and because it's all word-of-mouth marketing, it's an
incredibly devoted community, which, though 80,000 strong, feels
refreshingly personal. After our events, many busy professionals write us
wonderful emails--raves and constructive criticism. Plus, curating events
like THINK{drinks} [every month I invite a panel of big-wigs in various
niches of the media industry to huddle on a provocative topic], allows me
the excuse to interact with the most outstanding people in the business
which is a big treat, and professionally advantageous.
Working with Laurel Touby, mediabistro.com's CEO, has been an enormously
rewarding experience. She's a high-energy, creative, open-minded boss whose
feedback is never negative, and always contributes to making my projects
better. After years of flying solo, it's great to have an independent
fiefdom [I'm Director of LEARN Programming] with the backup brain support of
a mentoring boss and fun and smart co-workers. Again, I realize this sounds
suspiciously brown-nosey, but right now, from where I sit, I'm feeling
lucky.
Felicia Sullivan: Your time to ramble on...
Since I've rambled enough, I'll pass on the tempting bait. But the final
thing I'll say is: people who are bored need their heads examined.
a bit about victoria...

Victoria C. Rowan has kept a journal since she was seven, worked for various
publications since elementary school and has worked professionally in
magazine/book publishing since 1991. Her cultural journalism and essays have
appeared in the New York Times Magazine, New York, ARTNews, MODE, Time Out
New York, Homestyle, Financial Times Magazine and many websites. Rowan's
commentaries have aired on NPRıs "Morning Edition" and Northeast Public
Radio. Her illustrations have appeared in New Age Journal and
Citysearch.com. She is now working on illustrations for a cookbook. In 1994,
she started her monthly literary variety show, "Beyond Words: Stories on
Stage," which continues to draw standing-room-only crowds. After studying
with The Writer's Studio for over three years, Rowan founded a weekly
writing workshop and schmooze network for professional writers that's been
helping members generate commercially lucrative work ever since. Since 2001,
she has been Director of LEARN Programming for mediabistro.com, where she
also curates their THINK{drinks} series of panel discussions.
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